Enough

Jun. 25th, 2009 08:02 am
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I'm officially asking folks that if you have anything more in regards to my last post, unless it has something to do with the actual topic of the rant and not my choice of phrases, please stop. Take the conversations to your own journals, emails or private messages.

Of the 45 comments only 7 actually dealt with the topic of the rant - that not properly approaching a dog, without owner permission, can be dangerous either for the child or the dog or both.

I am not going to apologize for my choice of words in my journal or in a note on my facebook page. Yes I titled both as Dear Friends with Children. But if you chose to read it, if you chose to take offense at a choice of language that I CONSCIOUSLY made in a rant, I cannot take responsibility. I will not take ownership of another persons feelings. As has been said, don't like, don't read. I do not ask for anyone to read my writings. But at the same time, I will not start locking every post. If there is something that I feel strongly about that feel should only be read by certain eyes, I am capable of using a filter or - contacting those people in a less public forum.

Only one person directed their objection to the phrase directly to me. But not one person contacted me, either through comments or privately to ask why I chose it, was I aware that it is offensive, or anything else. Do I mean that phrase to refer to all members of that age group, a specific subgroup, etc. And at this point, the situation has gotten out of hand and I will not answer those question in a public forum. There are ways to get a hold of me. Most have my email addresses. If you don't, both LJ and FB have the ability to send private messages. Hell, some of even have my phone number and/or know where I live.

But I do have to wonder one small thing. Was the offense because of the words or because they came from me. Seriously. I have friends that HAVE used that phrase before (thus, where I got it) and no one has raised anywhere near this kind of fuss. Did I offend more because I broke some preconceived norm for "Ekat"?

Anyway, I ask again, unless the response is in direct relationship to the actual topic, please stop commenting on the last post.

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Date: 2009-06-25 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stitchwhich.livejournal.com
Was the offense because of the words or because they came from me. Seriously. I have friends that HAVE used that phrase before (thus, where I got it) and no one has raised anywhere near this kind of fuss. Did I offend more because I broke some preconceived norm for "Ekat"?

I find the phrase vulgar and offensive (something rare in an Ex-Sailor!) - I was a bit surprised that you used it but figured that you got it from somewhere. The fact that it was you didn't really ping so much as the jarring of the phrase itself. The only other time I've read it has been in half-coherent vitriol posted by rabid child-haters and I know that is not you! In my world, the use of the phrase would have denoted someone of very low class. Obviously, that does not hold true in other parts of the world as you are not in that catagory.

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Date: 2009-06-25 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baronessekat.livejournal.com
Thank you, I really appreciate the honesty of the reply

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Date: 2009-06-25 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stitchwhich.livejournal.com
Well, I didn't reply on your previous post about kids and pets because all I could add was a "me too!". Heck, aults and pets - especially dogs. I have seen the most mild-mannered dog turn into a snapper/biter thanks to circumstances... and "protecting their owner" is one that is deeply ingrained in most breeds. So folks who stick their hands in the personal space of a dog get what they deserve. Unfortunately, the dog doesn't afterward.

When my eldest was in kindergarten he tried to pet a dog in the apartment across the street's patio. It was fenced in AND posted "Beware of dog. But the boy had to try anyway and he got bit. We (dog owner & I) called the authorities (because it was witnessed) and when the cop got there, my son interrupted the adults to tell the man that the dog was not at fault. He'd seen the sign and trespassed and got what he deserved. As mad at him as I was for what he'd done, I was very proud at that moment that he understood he'd broken rules, he took responsibility, and his major concern was that the dog not be punished. It wasn't - shots were up to date and we declined (of course) to press any action so everything was fine.

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